|
|
Post by angora on May 10, 2015 19:59:36 GMT
Hi all,
Here's a weird thing...
I was working on a Morat from Infinity over the weekend. I had primed him (using a brush) with Vallejo Grey primer and then had added a basecoat of Vallejo Blue Green to his armour.
All was going well until I applied a GW Drakanhof Nightshade wash.
At that point, the basecoat AND the primer both rubbed off to the lightest touch.
I had to strip the mini, re prime (this time with GW Skavenblight Dinge) and start again.
Has anyone else experienced this?
|
|
|
|
Post by Atreju on May 10, 2015 20:35:24 GMT
I experienced something similar with my first mini: I used GW-primer, Vallejo colours and GW-varnish spray, and both the primer and the colour became liquid again and dropped of. Maybe it is a way of GW telling the customers to buy only their stuff and they mix something to their products that reacts with products from other companies.
|
|
|
|
Post by stonecoldlead on May 11, 2015 11:46:36 GMT
Did the paint rub off whilst the wash was still wet or after it had dried? If the former then I'd say the previous coats of paint hadn't dried enough before applying the wash, if the latter then I don't know. Are you working in high humidity or any kind of extreme of temperature?
|
|
|
|
Post by angora on May 11, 2015 19:34:44 GMT
The wash was applied probably an hour after the paint but 3 days after the primer! The whole lot came off - back to bare metal. It was really odd. I've had reports this has happened to other people when using GW washes over Vallejo paints. Conspiracy theory time  |
|
|
|
Post by Atreju on May 12, 2015 5:07:53 GMT
But hey, it's just a theory... a conspiracy theory!  I really could imagine some practice like this from GW... |
|
Martin
Morbid Puppet
Posts: 49 
|
Post by Martin on May 14, 2015 20:24:38 GMT
this is probably a dumb question but I have to ask. Was the miniature cleaned before priming?
I have never had primer peal off like your story but I have learned that cleaning the metal figs with some vinegar can take off some mold release that I can't easily see and then the primer job afterwards is better.
Makes one wonder if somebody should find a large long metal sample.
clean it
primer with one brand
paint in small patches your different hobby paints, leave some blank space between for labels to keep your
if there is some chemical reaction maybe you will discern which combination of paints and primer are doing this
I never really thought that there could be much reaction between a dry primer coat and subsequent wet coats of paint
|
|
|
|
Post by angora on May 15, 2015 11:04:15 GMT
I Didn't clean the mini first but then I never have. I'll normally wash resins but everything else has been fine for the past 30 odd years  |
|
Saynt
Wolfen Greatfang
Posts: 86
|
Post by Saynt on May 15, 2015 12:15:06 GMT
Sometimes you can get one that just got unlucky in the mold-release lottery. I had an alahel the messanger this happened with and it's the only figure that's ever done it to me.
|
|
Martin
Morbid Puppet
Posts: 49
|
Post by Martin on May 16, 2015 4:39:12 GMT
a "pro Ebaypainter" told me that the Rackham figs had a lot of mold release on their metal minis
it was him that suggested to me to wash metal figs in a vinegar bath
I tried it and it is shocking to see the amount of "scum" floating on top the next morning
another suggestion from one of the CryHavoc painting articles was to use a hair dryer to quickly dry the primer coat so that it was nice and hard
another helpful hint that I have yet to try for myself
|
|
