I found this forum while I was searching an international place where Confrontation enthusiasts meat and exchange. At the moment I'm preparing Confrontation demo games, around Tabletop Clubs and Conventions in my area, purely because I love the game and would like to draw some attention to it, discontinued or not. The idea for it is a copy since I played a Confrontation game at the Hamburg Tactica Convention early this year.
What table size and how much terrain of which type should I build for the demos? Or better these recommendations based on 100, 200, 300 and 400 Point games, would help me a lot.
Last Edit: Sept 3, 2015 11:19:09 GMT by tequilaman
I wish I could have visit the Tactica as well, especially when I read that they want to play the scenario "Three Bridges", which is my favourite scenario. Have you played Confrontation before the Tactica as well?
The official table size for most scenarios is 120x60 cm for two players, but we also played with three players and used a circle with three deployment zones. I'm not sure about the official terrain rules, I think it was something about 6 pieces. You can as well say that two pieces for every 100 points are a good match, so in a 400 point game there'll be 8 pieces. But I prefer a lot more of terrain.
The type of terrain should be according to your preferences. Do you want woodland, rocks, ruins, desert, ... ? In the last year I came up with a lot of "Disc-Terrain": I used old CDs as base for the terrain piece and then put stuff on it. It's a very good size for a piece of terrain.
What about the others around here? What and how many terrain do you prefer or would suggest for Tequilaman's purpose?
I started Confrontation when Pilgrim Of The One-Eyed was released, but paused some time in actually playing it. You know real life was demanding a lot, also I liked painting and tinkering around with the miniatures more than playing since I guess the dice hate me. And Dwarves are not really the strongest faction choice. I collected, painted and played solely dwarves of Tir Na Bor.
The "Three Bridges" scenario recharged my batteries, so to say. I decided to start my demo games with my friend that was with me at the Hamburg Tactica. Because my rule knowledge was a bit rusty there. The paint jobs and the terrain was very very beautiful, here are some pictures. It's a pity that most beautiful things didn't get caught on photos like some of the self made buildings that were directly inspired by Rackham artworks, also the actual three bridges with the riverside was very beautiful. The person running the demo there wasn't really into explaining the rules, I guess if he had explained it some new players would have played there instead of people who already knew the game and the rules. I gave the demo guy my contact information in case he wanted to play Confrontation with me since we don't live that far away but he never reported back to me. Maybe I scared him.
I read the rulebook of 3.5 in the last days. The only thing that I found missing in there was suggestions how many terrain a typical game should have. That's why I asked here. Since my terrain collection didn't survive my last move between cities, I wanted to start my terrain collection again. I guess a look at the sceneries helps me to decide what to build first.
Thanks for your suggestions, Atreju. Maybe some other posters will express there thoughts here, too?
Last Edit: Aug 12, 2015 23:29:33 GMT by tequilaman
In last 3-4 years I have "recruited" 4-5 players (it is a great thing considering absence of any gaming culture or products in my town) and I have following guidelines about demo games: - standard board size (120 x 60 cm). Quantity of terrain pieces is less important than visual appearance (game board MUST be pretty ) - 200 points without mages or priests - otherwise the game will last for to long and can become overwhelming or (worse) boring. - I try to bring 3 different armies with prepared armylists so candidate can pick one he likes most (by fluff, look or feel of presented army) - I would bring more but for now I have only 3 armies... But "Pokemon syndrome" is in full effect with me - bring all rulebooks and try to collect all cards at your tablet or smartphone - illustrations in Rackham books are ..... can't find words that can describe them but in one case viewing of illustrations in rule-books was all that was necessary for one of my friends to become interested and buy C3 army. - don't be so strict about rules (1 or 2 cm in charge range is not worth one future opponent/comrade) - have fun
Thanks for the advices. Ok so my first goal is make all things for the demos look pretty. So it's better to take my time than to rush in with some almost ready stuff. If anybody is interested I'm happy to open a new thread where I post my progresses with pictures on this goal lunging for c&c. It helps that you spoke about 200 point lists.
Since I "only" have almost all dwarves that came out and some scattered miniatures of other factions. I have two options:
I build some dwarf lists of 200 points each, without magic and without wonders.
I buy some stuff to get at least one more list going. As I don't have much money I would try to do it as cost effective as possible. I stumbled across a 2 player starter with the Wolfen of Yllia and the Alchemists of Dirz. It contains 7 Miniatures including 2 champions and costs 19,10€. That would provide me with two additional factions, but I'm not sure if I can build 200 points lists of this box. Or would a starter box of Age of Ragnarok be a better value? How much do they typically cost with shipping to Germany in mind? I have seen cheap ones, but there were in the USA, where the shipping was very expensive. And I know I wanted to rebase them to square bases, but I can safe some painting time on them. Where could I get proper Confrontation bases? They seam to be a bit higher than the standard ones sold on every corner.
What do you guys think?
Last Edit: Aug 17, 2015 18:33:11 GMT by tequilaman
Instead of buying Rackham bases, which are bloody expensive, I've thought of using standard slotted square bases. The minis need to get its base a bit trimmed to fit well, but I see this as a better solution than buying them.